Archive Wishes, Rumours and Ramblings Thread

Well, we are quiet in this space. I guess everyone's more involved in the tour news and trying to score tickets (if in Europe).

This activity may still potentially cause a delay, I suppose. The countdown is on so I guess an announcement of any delay will be soon.

Let's assume not... I'm going either Darkness tour, or at the polar opposite a D&D show. If Darkness, I'm going Passiac 3. If D&D... who knows, they are presumably all recorded. But I'd be hoping for something with some tour debuts given the eclectic nature of those set lists.

@Mario Brega how did you get to expect Sheffield 1988... you haven't been tapped to write a review again, have you?

Elsewhere, (well, Oily Waterbody), someone has hinted at a European show pre Reunion. Which fits in with Mario's expectation.

If it is TOL, I'll go through the usual process. 'Do I really need another show with the same songs in largely the same order?' I might leave it a day, read the positive reviews, decide to splurge. Next is 'Wow, the nuances in Tunnel, the differences in Seeds, this BITUSA outro solo is off the fuckin charts'. Infact, so far I have reasonably clear favourite shows from each tour based on personal set list tastes. TOL is much harder, as the nuances are in the performances, and in spite of (or because of?) a tightly almost scripted set list, the nuances are more pronounced than almost any other tour. At least with the releases so far. Stockholm 88 is in my top 5 all time Archive releases... is there another European show which, despite set list similarities, actually tops it due to performance nuances?

Speaking of which, Brucebase states that Sheffield night 2 is the first time Spare Parts was played in the second set on the tour. Yet their posted setlist for Night 1 also has it in the second set?!?

Expecting Sheffield 1988 next week, but man I was listening to the newest None But The Brave podcast episode yesterday and I'd love some Magic.

I'll take it. I would have preferred Baltimore, but I am looking forward to downloading it.

also.....

Putin go fuck yourself.

Cleveland 2009 is today's release according to Jimmy Rotolo.

Yeah, if they had East Berlin, now would be the time.

That would be a poignant release, especially if Bruce donated his profit to aid Ukraine.

Well, I guess world events are (quite rightly) overshadowing any thought of the next Archive show which is shortly due (assuming normal First Friday transmission).

Music can be a balm... what balm may Mr Springsteen and Nugs bestow on us in the coming hours?

Well, looks like I was right and then wrong.

Seems all quiet on the rumour front, nothing at all on either BTX or elsewhere from any of those sneaky folks who sometimes get a sniff of what's coming.

That makes me nervous, complete radio silence brings the old 'delay twitter post' worries into play.

Well, presumably we are only days away from another entry in the Archive series.

After the ridiculous run of absolute A grade E Street crackers (both classic era and reunion) that the last few months have provided, I wouldn't be surprised if the series takes a figurative deep breath and wipe of the brow this month to bring us something off E Street.

A GOTJ show is my odds on guess, with Seeger Sessions only slightly behind.

March could see a return to E Street but circa 2009. At which point all the contrarians in the fan base will be whining and complaining how the series is dead, having somehow forgotten the amazing late 2021 / Jan 2022 run of releases.

I'm ready for another Seeger tour show.

I was listening to the New Orleans Jazz Festival release today and I do have one criticism of Bruce. I think it was overly-sensitive to the point of being a chickenshit move that he dropped the word black from the "and what happened to your poor folks" line in front of an audience that probably had the highest percentage of black people he's ever played to. For me, it's the line that draws clear the way racism has effected everything from infrastructure to disaster relief in this country.

Always stick to your guns, if you strapped them on for justice.

I'm hearing inklings that it's one of the Anaheim shows from 2000.

Hopefully Night Two!

It's amazing to think we get these so often.

I promise not to moan about delays as well.

With a new release this morning and me still not worn out on the last one, remind me not to moan about the next delay.

Archive Series back in action tomorrow, so soon after December 23rd!

Hoping for something from 2009, honestly. It's been a while.

Putting the finishing touches on this year's Archive Top 10 (until I'm likely thrown back to step 1 on Friday) and out of this 66 song playlist I've got, a great joy is playing a song I initially think "does this really need to be in here?" about, and remembering why I had it down as a maybe in the first place.

P.S. that song is "Land of Hope and Dreams" from June 27th, 2000, but I'm not telling if it'll be in the blog or not 😉

Work has officially started on my New Year's Day possibilities for 2022 (and the Series' Top 10 songs of 2021) blog post. I've got my top 10 just about set, before the potential Christmas bonus makes me start from scratch, and I'm personally happy with the shows I've selected as shouts for the New Year. You lot know I don't like to praise my own work, regardless of how much I share it, but I've gotta say I'm very happy with how it's going, and I'm really looking forward to January 1st so you can all have a chance to check it out 🙂

I am hoping for a nice surprise on Christmas.

I do have to admit, the only things I ever look forward to are the classic shows 80/81 or 84/85. I might be excited for a another Magic or D and D show. Maybe a Joad. But I am in general bored with the Reunion era to be honest.

What show or shows are you still holding out hope for?

I need these two.

1984-11-16 - HILTON COLISEUM, IOWA STATE UNIVERSITY, AMES, IA

BORN IN THE U.S.A. / OUT IN THE STREET / DARLINGTON COUNTY / ATLANTIC CITY / JOHNNY 99 / REASON TO BELIEVE / NEBRASKA / JOHNNY BYE-BYE / PROVE IT ALL NIGHT / GLORY DAYS / THE PROMISED LAND / SUGARLAND / MY HOMETOWN / BADLANDS / THUNDER ROAD / COVER ME / DANCING IN THE DARK / HUNGRY HEART / CADILLAC RANCH / DOWNBOUND TRAIN / I'M ON FIRE / PINK CADILLAC / BOBBY JEAN / RACING IN THE STREET / JUNGLELAND / BORN TO RUN / DETROIT MEDLEY / TWIST AND SHOUT - DO YOU LOVE ME / SANTA CLAUS IS COMIN' TO TOWN

World premiere of Born In The U.S.A. outtake "Sugarland", which is only played twice live: this show and again two days later in Lincoln, NE. "Johnny Bye-Bye" includes the "Mystery Train" outro. Springsteen changes the "Reason To Believe" lyric "standin' out on Highway 31" to "…Highway 61". "Detroit Medley" includes "Travelin' Band" and "I Hear A Train".

1992-10-22 - SHORELINE AMPHITHEATRE, MOUNTAIN VIEW, CA

Soundcheck: BETTER DAYS / MANSION ON THE HILL

RED HEADED WOMAN / BETTER DAYS / LOCAL HERO / LUCKY TOWN / ATLANTIC CITY / THE BIG MUDDY / 57 CHANNELS (AND NOTHIN' ON) / BADLANDS / THE RIVER / LIVING PROOF / IF I SHOULD FALL BEHIND / LEAP OF FAITH / MAN'S JOB / ROLL OF THE DICE / THE LONG GOODBYE / COVER ME / BRILLIANT DISGUISE (with Patti Scialfa) / SOUL DRIVER / SOULS OF THE DEPARTED / BORN IN THE U.S.A. / REAL WORLD / LIGHT OF DAY / HUMAN TOUCH (with Patti Scialfa) / GLORY DAYS / BOBBY JEAN / THUNDER ROAD / BORN TO RUN / MY BEAUTIFUL REWARD / WORKING ON THE HIGHWAY

Originally scheduled for October 9. Last known performance of "The Long Goodbye". "The Star-Spangled Banner" is played as a lead-in to "Born In The U.S.A.".

I really enjoy getting stoned while listening to these shows.

The series has grown so large that when I'm scrolling through the releases, I'll always come upon one or two and think, "oh, yeah, forgot we had that show."

I'm so lousy at predicting, won't even say anything. But I'm pleased with anything we will get. In advance, no complaints. 😊

Aaaaand it's back 😎

I think we will get an archive this Friday....all the stars seem to be lined up.

Backstreets saying there were goodies (that means two) in the oven. I think they have had time to get something ready for this week.

It's also obvious to me that when we got Indianapolis 08 on 10/20, it was done very quickly. I think something that would have conflicted with No Nukes was ready to go at that point, and someone realized that it could possibly canabalize sales in some way.

I think we are due a River show now or at Christmas. Nassau 12/28 seems obvious, but I'd be against that. It wasn't the best show of the run and the 1st song includes a bum note from C. I would be happy with it...BUT!!! I'd like another NJ 81 show released as a bookend to the River era or maybe something we had no idea was taped.

Then that leaves us with the Christmas bonus...so we will see.

That's the arrangement upon which I imprinted and much as I love the full band version on Tracks -- and I do -- this is still the one to which I default.

There is zero evidence or even rumour that this show was recorded in multi track, but oh my giddy aunt... what a killer arrangement and performance.

And @Mario Brega, check out who's sharing Patti's mic in the last few moments. WTF, never noticed the dude sing backing in 35 plus years of fandom, now have two examples in two weeks.

Currently playing Tempe 1980, in my opinion one of the greatest E street shows of all time.

I want a River show that we didnt know was recorded. Otherwise NJ or London 1981

"Holiday goodies"...."in the oven".... CW Post 1975 first December Friday and then 28 Dec 1980 around Xmas Eve, anyone?

I am enjoying the previous 70 releases right now. Bouncing to and fro....

The line about multiple Good things "in the oven"...not gonna lie, thats amazing.

Add to that, No Nukes!!

Next Archive release is in December lads and lasses.

Anyone anticipating a release this week so fast on the heels of last month's latecomer? Anyone think it will be a River or Born To Run show?

Live store is being updated.

"Cross your fingers" is apparently our hint, and apparently we're getting a release today (I expected the digital No Nukes tbh).

Any ideas what "Crossing fingers" suggests?

I think they changed horses in mid stream. Another show will be ready soon I feel.

Counting Crows and Pearl Jam

Do any of you buy other artist's releases from Nugs?

I've purchased a couple each from Fogerty and Hornsby.

It definitely feels like it's time for a River show.

I would wager it's Sony that feels the need to protect its heavily-marketed to the general public release from a conflicting release that only the hardcore will buy. You know, the people who will get both.

The digital release of No Nukes is due out next week - I'm pretty sure - and I guess they don't want a clash of any sort. If that sounds ridiculous, I agree.

Let's see if - and how - today treats us. Shouldn't be too long before we find out.

Earth calling Archives... come in Archives....

A video for "Sherry Darling" is apparently going up on YouTube tomorrow (according to Greasy Lake).

So I'm not holding out hope for Archive #72, just to be on the safe side.

Well, for me here down under it's the ritual to awaken on the first Saturday of each month to see what the blessed Bruce gods have delivered overnight. Alas, I appear to have awoken to an empty sky and a code of silence. (Or, more accurately, I have awoken to neither an Empty Sky nor a Code Of Silence, nor indeed any other fresh Bruce Springsteen performance). Ah, well, looks like I might have to actually interact with other members of my household this weekend...

So, nothing today, but I think it's nice that last month gave us reason to keep hoping this deep into the day.

We'll see what happens in the next hour.

For once.

I'm optimistic.

we will see....a flury of "Inc" activity usually signals a delay. I am hoping. I will be in the field today. We will see.

Oh, and I've ignored the BTR tour which is also due as I'm predicting the CW Post 1975 show from which the official Santa recording comes from as either the December First Friday or even the Christmas bonus release.

I'm not sure if I've got the right thread now... I think the Random Archive Thoughts has become a pseudo 'what's next?' Home recently.

First Friday for October is imminent... what do people think? Based on time since last tour release (and ignoring The Rising tour which it appears they have just given up on) I'd say either The River 80/81 or Magic. I'm thinking maybe they'll go Magic this month and then The River for November as part of the No Nukes movie build-up. But, then again, I unsuccessfully predicted 28 December 1980 about three months running earlier this year so what do I know.

So far this morning, it seems you can look, but you better not touch this new show.

Nice inside info Buddha ......I had kind of retired from stadium shows by 2012 ....and it cost me those crazy late summer shows in 2012 and 2016 ....Bruce in full prove it all night mode after the loss of The Big Man ....This looks like a nice addition .....

I was previously of the view that less was more when it came to the band on stage. This tour showed how wrong I was. Every show I caught was a celebration.

If a show is released today, wouldn't this be the shortest gap?

I'm happy if this means we are back on schedule and delighted if it's indeed another WB show. Buddha is right, those shows boosted energy and vitality, and I believe were very special because of the many men and women on stage, it was a team success.

The one I attended in 2012 gave me a two-day high. I was ecstatic, it was the most incredible gig experience ever...

I really think the WB tour is a high point of sorts. The shows all had this feeling about them that just blew me away. I enjoyed all the shows I attended as well as all the boots. Looking forward to this one.

I am also surpised they are back on track. Looking forward to a River show in September.

According to Backstreets twitter, new archive tomorrow!!!

According to the hint, it is rumored to be Fenway Park (Boston) night 2 in 2012.

A truly incredible show.

2012-08-15 - FENWAY PARK, BOSTON, MA

THUNDER ROAD / HUNGRY HEART / SHERRY DARLING / SUMMERTIME BLUES / GIRLS IN THEIR SUMMER CLOTHES / WE TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN / TWO HEARTS / WRECKING BALL / DEATH TO MY HOMETOWN / MY CITY OF RUINS / KNOCK ON WOOD / DOES THIS BUS STOP AT 82ND STREET? / THUNDERCRACK / FRANKIE / PROVE IT ALL NIGHT / DARKNESS ON THE EDGE OF TOWN / WORKING ON THE HIGHWAY / SHACKLED AND DRAWN / WAITIN' ON A SUNNY DAY / BACKSTREETS / BADLANDS / LAND OF HOPE AND DREAMS - PEOPLE GET READY / WHO'LL STOP THE RAIN - ROCKY GROUND / BORN TO RUN / DETROIT MEDLEY / DANCING IN THE DARK / QUARTER TO THREE / TENTH AVENUE FREEZE-OUT / AMERICAN LAND (with Ken Casey)

First night in Boston may have been relatively standard, but Bruce really mixes things up on night two with 18 songs not played the previous night and plenty of rarities. "Thunder Road" opens, performed by Springsteen accompanied only by Roy. A quartet of summer songs follows, including the second "Summertime Blues" of the tour. A surprising Eddie Floyd's "Knock On Wood" makes its sole tour appearance, only previously played with the E Street Band on April 29, 1976. "Thundercrack", "Frankie" and "Prove It All Night" (with 1978 intro, for the first time in the United States since 1980) follow. If that's not enough, "Backstreets" includes a "Dream Baby Dream" interlude. "Two Hearts" includes "It Takes Two". A solo acoustic "Who'll Stop The Rain" opens an encore set that also features "Detroit Medley", "Quarter To Three" (with "I'm a prisoner of rock 'n' roll!") and "American Land" with Ken Casey from Dropkick Murphys. Patti Scialfa is not present.

My predictions, with absolutely zero analysis and only slightly more thought:

August: D&D

September: River tour

October: Magic tour

November: Wrecking Ball 2013 or Joad

December: the 75 show where the official Santa comes from. Xmas Bonus: a 2009 full BTR or Darkness show (or, if November is Joad, then a 2013 WB show).

Probably be proven wrong within a week...

I'm looking at my spreadsheet. Yes, I have one....we have no idea what he will do, but it will be magical and great.

My prediction:

August 13th D&D

Sept 10th River

October 8th Seeger

November BTR

December WOAD

Christmas Buffalo/Rochester 1980.

Dream baby Dream.

My choice for next release would be Seeger or Magic if we can't have The Rising.

I'll also be satisfied with whatever comes.

Was going to respond to Buddha's latest post on the NJ release thread, but thought I'd just post it in here. Basically I've been thinking all day about how the rest of the 2021 Archive slate will shape up, and it's really intriguing me.

Because of how they've released so much of the Classic Era in such a quick (delays-aside) timeframe, it leaves the next five months potentially very new.

So let's go through this year-by-year, kinda.

1975: I have the impression they like spreading these out given how few multi-tracks they have, so it would really surprise me if we got C.W. Post, Tower Theatre #1 or something shocking before 2022.

I'll give a mention to 1976 and 1977, as well as pre-75, but we pretty much know it's close to 0%.

1980-81: Like Buddha, and a lot of you, probably, I've been wanting/expecting this since, well, the last one, and I'd be inclined to predict it as the August release. However that breeds a potential 'problem' for Nugs.

2002-03: Similarly to '76 and '77, not really worth mentioning. I like the idea of Milano or Wembley or wherever as the Christmas bonus, but for some reason I'm currently leaning towards Cardiff 2013 as that unearthing.

2005: Skipping past 2004 with the first sentence of the previous touring year(s) as reasoning, this one could pop up in the next two months, but I think regardless of whether it's released before or after '80-81, that means to get the next four years in succession would be... odd?

2006: That said, after a three year wait in-between Jazzfest and Wembley, it would be equally cool and surprising to get a third Seeger show so quickly.

2007-08: One of these two years (hopefully '07, it's been three years) being released next month with River in September and D&D in October could make this entire post and overthinking redundant, but even with that happening, would that mean 2005 in October being followed by a November of 2006 and December of...

2009: Ok, so if you've made it this far, cheers for your patience. At this point I think I've gotten my point across and don't really know what to say hear without repeating myself or rambling even more than I am right now. I will say, maybe at the risk of sounding stupid, that I'm not fussed what the schedule is and I'll be thrilled to listen to it all, but we might be looking at a very modern final stretch of 2021.

Good news! ☺

Email from Nugs:

Unfortunately, there have been some delays in approvals for the latest Bruce releases, as Bruce personally approves all audio and artwork and is currently performing nightly on Broadway. We are still planning to have a July release, by the end of the month, and an August release as early as possible next month.

So we will see.

Yes, the download expires after 48 hours.

I love/hate thursdays witing for a friday release. I am seeing pessimism on BTX today, between jokes and outright frustration that July's release may not happen.

I will not give in to that feeling, taking a longer view on the series in general.

Gonna listen today, and enjoy what is before being sad over what isnt, and what may be delayed.

All hail this remarkable archive series.